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【美国网友】波士顿向中国购买地铁，网友热议！
由 Admin 周二 十月 28, 2014 11:49 am
A railcar and locomotive manufacturer controlled by China’sgovernment has emerged as the top bidder for a $566.6 million contract tosupply the MBTA with new cars for the Red and Orange lines.
一个由中国政府管控的轨道机车和火车头制造商已经成为5.666亿美金MBTA项目的头号竞标人，其将为红色和橘色线路提供新的机车。
The Massachusetts Department of Transportation board ofdirectors is scheduled to vote Wednesday on the contract for CNR MACorporation, which is a venture of China CNR Corporation Limited and CNRChangchun Railway Vehicles Co., according to the board’s agenda.
根据理事会日程，马赛州的交通运输局主管计划周三举行一个关于CNR和马赛州的合作的投票，这将是一个和中国高铁局以及长春机车制造场的商业冒险。
The contract for 284 subway cars will include theconstruction of an assembly plant in Springfield, according to a person withknowledge of the contract. The MBTA said last year it expected to begindelivering Orange Line cars in the winter of 2018, and the Red Line cars in thefall of 2019.
据知情人士透漏，这个284量地铁的合约将会包含在春田建造一个组装车间。马赛州运输局称，去年他们希望橘色线路的机车能在2018年交付，红色线路的在2019年交付。
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Governor Deval Patrick is scheduled to make an announcementabout the MBTA’s new cars Tuesday in Springfield, according to his publicschedule; he could not be reached for comment Monday night.
主管P将会在周二对马赛州的新机车情况发表声明，因为根据他的时间表，在周一晚上是没有时间的。。（嘲讽性略强）。。。
The possible deal comes amid concerns about the company’slinks to the Chinese government, which has been criticized for human rightsabuses. China CNR is a state-owned entity in China.
在社会中最有可能出现的论调就是由于中国政府，中国政府在人权状况上饱受批评，而这个CNR公司就是国有企业，完全属于中国政府所有。
State Representative Byron Rushing, who represents the SouthEnd, said he asked state transportation officials on Monday what steps had beentaken to vet the Chinese company, but that he had not yet received a response.
代表南方的州议员BR，说他已经在周一的时候询问了交通局关于具体采取了哪些步骤以审查中国人的公司，但是他还没收到有关方面的答复。
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“We should vet any company we are doing business with fromaround the world on their human rights record,” Rushing said in an interview.“And this is China. There are a lot of people who have questioned the humanrights record of the Chinese.”
BR在受采访时说：“我们应该调查所有跟我们做生意的公司的所在国的人权状况，况且这个公司是中国的，那就更应该不能放过，毕竟世界上有很多人都在质疑中国的人权记录”。
Rushing said there is precedent for the state to refuse to dobusiness with countries that have troubling records on human rights, includingSouth Africa in the apartheid era and, more recently, Myanmar.
BR还说，不和篡改人权记录的国家做生意在本州是有先例的，比如实行种族隔离政策的南非地区，还有最近的缅甸。
But Patrick, in remarks to reporters outside an event in Roxbury Monday, insisted that the bidders onthe Red and Orange line contract have been “thoroughly vetted,” and that theprocess had been “transparent and rigorous and competitive.”
但是正在外面和记者谈论星期一大事件的主管P（ps：上边主管说星期一没时间，这里故意写星期一的）却坚持说红色和橘色线路的招标是经过严格审查的，而且招标过程透明且严谨，并最具竞争力。
Patrick said he had met with representatives of thecontractor in Hong Kong. Patrick noted that, under the terms of any contract,the new coaches would not be assembled in China.
主管P说他已经和合约方在香港见过面了，并且P还强调说，基于这个条约，新机车将不会在中国组装。（ps：美国人组装质量就好是吧！！）
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“A condition of the deal is that the coaches be assembledright here in Massachusetts,” Patrick said.
“这个交易的条件就是这些车在马赛州组装”P说。
Charlie Baker, the Republican gubernatorial nominee, said hewas glad the contract for the new subway cars would require assembly to takeplace in Massachusetts.
叫CB的共和党州长候选人，说他很乐意看到新地铁在马赛州组装。
If elected, Baker said he would make sure Massachusettsbusinesses that seek state contracts for such work get credit for employingpeople in the Commonwealth.
如果CB当选，他说他将确保马赛州的企业获得这样的工作合同，并且得到被雇佣团体的信任。
The Democratic candidate, Attorney General Martha Coakley,could not be reached for comment Monday night.
皿煮党民意代表人MC，在周一的时候没有到。
At Wednesday’s MDOT board meeting, the seven-member panel isscheduled to discuss and either approve or deny the contract with CNR,according to the publicly available agenda posted on the agency’s website.
根据代理网站上公布的议事日程，在周二的马赛地铁方案会议上，陪审团将决定是否同意和CNR的协议。
MBTA and Department of Transportation officials would notcomment Monday night on the contract or the process.
马赛州和政府运输部门将不会对星期一的合约和审核过程置予评论。
Patrick first pledged to replace many of the aging cars inthe Red and Orange line fleets a year ago, after the Legislature passed a lawthat raised taxes to provide $800 million annually to the state’stransportation systems.
一年前，主管P开始保证要更换老旧的红色和橘色线路的地铁，然后立法通过了要每年通过税收筹集8亿美金用在公共交通上。
Last year, the MBTA issued requests for proposals to replacethe Red Line’s 45-year-old cars and the Orange Line’s 33-year-oldcars, aging equipment that has caused delays and required constant upkeepfor years.
去年，马赛州运输局发出投标要更换已经用了45年的红色线路机车和33年的橘色线路机车，过时的机车已经造成了运输的延迟，并且还有持续不断的维修费。
In its request, the agency asked for at least 226 cars,including 152 to replace the entire Orange Line fleet. The request alsoincluded 74 Red Line cars, which is about one-third of the fleet.
基于这个需求，代理人说需要最少226量机车，包含152机车用于替换整条橘色线路，和74量机车用于取代红色线路三分之一的机车。
MBTA officials did not release the names of the otherbidders, citing the confidentiality of the bidding process.
马赛运输局基于投标保密协议，没有公布其他的竞标者的名称。
But earlier this spring, CNR Changchun Railway announced itsintentions to assemble the cars in Springfield if awarded the deal, accordingto local media reports.
但是今年春天早些时候，根据当地的报道，CNR长春机车宣布其有意将机车在马赛州生产如果协议达成的话。
Hyundai Rotem, the South Korean company that in 2008 won a$190 million contract to supply the T with 75 new commuter rail cars, alsoidentified itself as a bidder on the Red and Orange line contract, byannouncing its own proposal to build a plant in Springfield, which was alsoreported by the local media.
现代重工，韩国公司，在2008年的时候赢得了一个1.9亿美金的合同为T提供了75量新的静音地铁机车，也参加了这次的竞标，其也宣布将会在马赛州设立工厂，这也是由当地媒体报道的。
Hyundai Rotem has been criticized for delivering the commuterrail cars behind schedule and later, for claims that the delivered trains werefaulty and required fixes.
现代重工评估了交车的速度能否赶上计划，然后声明马赛州政府的交车的计划是有问题的，需要修改。
Harry King, a spokesman for Hyundai Rotem, said in astatement the company was unaware the T had selected a winning bidder for theRed and Orange line trains.
金，一个现代重工的发言人说，“在公司还没有意识的情况下，马赛州政府已经选好了中标者”。
“This is the first we have heard that a decision would beannounced so soon,” King said in the statement.
“这是头一次我们听说竞标可以这么快宣布结果”
Michael Felton, the Springfield City Council president whosponsored a resolution to support CNR’s proposed facility in Springfield, saidthe granting of the accord would be welcome news for the region because of thejobs it would create.
MF，春田郡委员会主席，表达了自己支持CNR在春田建场的决心，说，给于支持将会是好消息，因为这将的给当地人带来工作。
He said he had not been told about the impending vote. “It’sa tremendous economic development opportunity and one of the greatest ones thatour region has seen in recent memory,” he said.
他说他还没有被告知最终的投票结果，“这将是一个巨大的经济发展机遇，而且是近些年来我们这个地区最好的项目”他补充道。
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If the coaches will be assembled here, we do not have anAmerican company that can pick up this contract? Just wondering!
如果这个机车要在美国组装，那为什么没有美国的公司来承接这个项目了?
好奇！！
For these sorts of trainsets it’s difficult to find anAmerican manufacturer (not to mention, many US manufacturers contractfabrication/assembly to Chinese companies anyways). The US has a vigorousfreight rail industry – which includes rail car manufacturing (tank cars,hoppers, etc…), but much less so on the passenger front.
（回上）对于这些地铁机车，很难找到一个美国制造商（即使找到了，也是外包给中国子公司），美国的货运列车较发达，但是做人的就不怎么行了。。。。
Let’s just hope we get a quality product. Saving money on abid is good in the short-term, but if the T gets stiffed with substandardproduct, we’re going to be paying far more in the long-run.
让我们一起期望能有个好质量的产品吧。在竞标里省钱是个好主意。（这家伙估计没看懂文章）
We live in a world economy now, and we have to recognize that. Buying Americanis an unrealistic goal and possibly destructive goal. If we expect people inother countries to buy American goods and services, we have to buy theirs.
我们现在是世界经济一体化，而我们还没认识到这情况。买别人东西是一个有害的方式，但是如果想让别人买我们的东西，我们也必须买他们的。
Yes, good point on the assembly plants, I didn’t elucidatethat. I would point out though, that these assembly plants are just that; thereis minimal manufacturing of the parts in the US – it’s mostly just putting thepieces together.
是的，组装工厂就是这样，我不在解释了。但是组装只是生产的很小的一部分，美国人仅仅是把零件组装起来而已。
As with the production of automobiles by Toyota, Honda,Mercedes and others, the parts will be a mixture of imported and domesticproducts. Even Ford and General Motors use foreign parts in American cars.
这没什么，就像丰田，本田，奔驰和其他的汽车一样会用美国产的零件，而美国的福特和通用也会用外国的零件。
we do business with Israel. so whats thedifference they both have human rights issues
我们也和以色列做生意啊，中国和以色列都有人权问题，所以又怎样？
i am sure there are american companies but it goes to the lowest qualifiedbidder.
我确定有美国公司造地铁，但是他们绝对去竞标低端产品去了。
Why are you fixated on Israel? You seemto inject Israel into every one of your posts. I hope you are not one of those.
你为什么跟以色列过不去？感觉你想向每个人灌输你的思想，希望你不是犹太人。
With any luck you will emigrate to a country that hatesIsrael as much as you do. I’m sure you’ll find the living just super!
你有没有碰巧遇到移居到国外而痛恨以色列的人呢？我相信你绝对会在身边找到活的例子的。。。。
No only human rights, but what about the environment andendangered species? It’s a free for all in China with complete disregard forwhat I mention. Its about *** money at any cost. Keep it at home and providejobs to americans.
不仅仅是人权，环境和生物所遭受的损害呢？在中国，我所说的完全没人关心，所有人都只在乎钱，而不管造成了什么代价。污染留在中国，并且给美国人创造工作.
The bidding entity from China is the Peoples Liberation Army.Yes folks the profits from this venture will fund more hacking research tosteal our military and business secrets.
这个中标人其实是中国人民解放军，你们这些愚蠢的地球人啊，这次的项目将会资助更多的黑客行为来偷取我们的军事和商业机密。
I am a little surprised not to see Bombardier listed as abidder – I believe they built the new blue line trainsets. Anyone know if theybid? They do some assembly in the US already…
我有一点惊讶竟然没有看到美国海军陆战队中标，我相信他们已经准备好了蓝色生产线（ps：美国海陆空三军穿蓝色），他们到底有没有中标？他们已经准备好了组装车间（PS：组装车间和集结号是一个词，所以这句话也是 他们已经集结完毕的意思）。。。。
WOW ! BULLETPROOF trains
（回上）叼炸天！蓝色的火车。。。
If you have 800 million annually why don’t you build your ownplant train and put America to work you could be fixing your whole fleet foryears to come
如果马赛州你们有8亿美金，为什么你们不自己做一个生产线，雇佣美国人工作，这样你在接下来的几年里就可也把所有的机车都换掉。。。。（PS：单纯的孩子）
When even our government entities are buying from China, how are we ever goingto resurrect manufacturing in the US! Buying the cheapest is not good policywhen most of the money is going overseas.
什么时候我们可以从中国买个政府过来？难道我们就不准备复兴美国的制造业了嘛？当我们的钱流向海外时，买最便宜的往往不是最好的选择。
The Chinese make a substandard product, in every class ofmerchandise they produce. I can’t believe it’s come to this, that the T is evenconsidering buying from a world class human rights violator, never mind howthey treat their labor… and, they are communists to boot. I thought we wereopposed to communism.
中国所生产的所有种类的产品全部不合格，我没想到如今他们已经开始做地铁了，而马赛州甚至考虑从一个人权破坏者那里购买产品，而不考虑他们如何对待自己的劳工，而且他们走的还是共产主义的道路，我们难道不是反对共产主义嘛？
Yeah, we’re opposed to communism unless it’s profitable thenslave labor is AOK! I’m so glad the wealthy political parties are tackling thisproblem.
呵呵，我们是反对共产主义，但是如果我们有利可图的话，别说是共产，奴役劳工也行啊！我真高兴看到有正直的政客在追查这个问题。。。。。
@jamup33…areyou referring to iphones?
（回复上）你的iphone？
Top Bid ? Dear Headline writers- It is called the ‘LowBid”
中标？亲爱的题目作者，那叫 最便宜的标；
Just build them in Germany and get a quality product.
行行好在德国造吧，给我们一个有质量保证产品；
It would be great to see a german product, or really anycompetition from other nations. The fact of the matter is that the contractalways goes to the low bidder, because it’s easy for those *** the decisionsto justify. “See, look how much money we’re saving?” Chinesecompanies will always low-ball and then we wind up paying for it in the backend in delayed deliveries, warranty issues, etc. The contract award should bemade to the lowest QUALIFIED bidder, and we as the public need to be acceptingof the fact that in order to get a qaulity product, it may cost and extra 5% orso up front, but we’ll be better off in the long run.
（回楼上）如果德国造是在好不过的了，或者其他国家都行。事实就是合约总是倾向于出价低的一方，因为这样那些州管理者就可以说“看我们省了多少钱”，中国公司总是低价竞标，然后拖延时间交货，这样就不得不加钱。竞标总是竞价最低的赢，而我们公众总是想要质量好的产品，而这可能会多花5%或者更多的钱，但长远来看是划算的。
Just how would you determine whether one bidder or the otherwill provide the best quality product. Do you base that who which one chargesthe highest price? Or maybe the country where they’re based. We get the bestquality cars, according to Consumer Reports, from Japan and Korea, not Germany.
你怎么判断哪个竞标人会给你最好质量的产品？难道你是依据谁出价最高？或者是他们来自哪个国家？根据我们的汽车企业调查，日本和韩国的车质量是最好的，而不是德国。
China should not be building our trains.
不能让中国人造我们的火车。
Its human rights abuses, environmental destruction, its actions in Tibet andelsewhere and political *** should bar it outright from even bidding onthis contract.
因为中国的人权纪录，环境破坏，在XZ和别的地方的行为，政党压制等就应该不让中国来竞标！
Have we lost all sense of moral integrity? Money money money money!
我们难道已经丢失了精神和品德了吗？只有，钱，钱，钱！！！！！！！
A US company should design and build them. Here. For all the obvious reasons.
美国的公司应该设计并修建它们，原因在明显不过了。。。。
On the other hand, it would truly be the “Red (Star) Line.
某种意义上真的是 红的线路额（PS:共产主义红色，修的路也叫红色线路）。。。。。。。。。。
I believe the Chinese flag includes a yellow star. But yeahto hell with them and stuff.
（回复楼上）我相信中国的国旗上有黄色的星星，但是见鬼去吧，哈哈。。。。。。。。。。。
I would suggest that you complain to your heroes DevalPatrick and Barack Obama about this.
（回复楼上）我建议你去跟马塞州州长DP和奥观海去说去。。。。。
They have a rather consistent habit of helping out America’s enemies whilehurting America’s friends.
他们有一个始终如一的行为，帮助美国的敌人，伤害美国的盟友。。。。
It IS hard to believe after all this time that there doesn’tseem to be a US manufacturer that can compete on large contracts for trains andtrain repair. Why not? Demand is steady, the government pays, we need themanufacturing jobs. Couldn’t GM or Ford go after business like this? Assemblyin Springfield is a nice touch, but of course it means the profits are headingto China. What a wasted opportunity!
很心酸的看到美国机车制造商没有能力在这种大型项目上竞争。为什么？需求是固定的，政府出钱，而我们需要制造业的工作。这件事以后，难道通用和福特不会这么做吗？在春田组装是件好事，但是主要盈利却去了中国。真是浪费机会啊！
Luckily, it’s just the orange and red lines, so no valuabletechnology is involved.
真幸运，幸好只是橘色和红色线路，没有机密的技术没卷入进去。。。（Ps：我们就天天偷你们技术？）
If a country’s human rights record disqualifies them from therail contract, then perhaps U.S. firms need not apply: 175K innocents killed inthe Iraq war; 30K handgun deaths/year; 2nd highest incarceration rate in world;47m living below the poverty line; etc.
如果人权问题妨碍了他们参加这次竞标，那美国的公司应该不会承认17.5万人在伊拉克战争中丧生，每年3万人死于手枪，世界第二高的比例，4700万人生活在政府贫困线以下。。。。。等
The clueless people that voted for Deval have a lot to answerfor.
这篇文章并没有为投票给Deval给出明确答案。。。（PS：这家伙是个明白人，这片文章明显黑共和党）
Made in China
Profits go to communism
Cambridge and Brookline are cheering on that one!
中国制造
利益流向中国，
而马塞州还为此事庆祝！！
The human rights issues are certainly concerning. But howabout also not transferring even more of our wealth and profit to China? Wheredid the next highest bid originate from? The public could well be willing topay slightly more if it means supporting an American company.
人权问题固然需要关注，但是重点是能不能不要转移我们的财富去中国？下一个高价竞标会发生在哪？政府应该多出点钱如果竞标的是美国的企业的话。
Sometimes I wonder if Marx was right. The Capitalists areweaving the rope that will be sued to hang themselves! China steals everytechnology it can lay its hands on and we assist them by sending dollars tocompanies that will never allow a level playing field. What an idioticapproach!
有时我真怀疑马克思是不是对的。资本家们自己做了个绳子然后把自己吊死了。中国偷走了所有他能触及到的科技，而且我们给他们美元帮助他们，我们永远都没有一个公平的竞争环境。真是一个愚蠢的方法！！
No…this is just a horrible decision.
不，这仅仅是一个可怕的决定。
一个由中国政府管控的轨道机车和火车头制造商已经成为5.666亿美金MBTA项目的头号竞标人，其将为红色和橘色线路提供新的机车。
The Massachusetts Department of Transportation board ofdirectors is scheduled to vote Wednesday on the contract for CNR MACorporation, which is a venture of China CNR Corporation Limited and CNRChangchun Railway Vehicles Co., according to the board’s agenda.
根据理事会日程，马赛州的交通运输局主管计划周三举行一个关于CNR和马赛州的合作的投票，这将是一个和中国高铁局以及长春机车制造场的商业冒险。
The contract for 284 subway cars will include theconstruction of an assembly plant in Springfield, according to a person withknowledge of the contract. The MBTA said last year it expected to begindelivering Orange Line cars in the winter of 2018, and the Red Line cars in thefall of 2019.
据知情人士透漏，这个284量地铁的合约将会包含在春田建造一个组装车间。马赛州运输局称，去年他们希望橘色线路的机车能在2018年交付，红色线路的在2019年交付。
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Governor Deval Patrick is scheduled to make an announcementabout the MBTA’s new cars Tuesday in Springfield, according to his publicschedule; he could not be reached for comment Monday night.
主管P将会在周二对马赛州的新机车情况发表声明，因为根据他的时间表，在周一晚上是没有时间的。。（嘲讽性略强）。。。
The possible deal comes amid concerns about the company’slinks to the Chinese government, which has been criticized for human rightsabuses. China CNR is a state-owned entity in China.
在社会中最有可能出现的论调就是由于中国政府，中国政府在人权状况上饱受批评，而这个CNR公司就是国有企业，完全属于中国政府所有。
State Representative Byron Rushing, who represents the SouthEnd, said he asked state transportation officials on Monday what steps had beentaken to vet the Chinese company, but that he had not yet received a response.
代表南方的州议员BR，说他已经在周一的时候询问了交通局关于具体采取了哪些步骤以审查中国人的公司，但是他还没收到有关方面的答复。
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“We should vet any company we are doing business with fromaround the world on their human rights record,” Rushing said in an interview.“And this is China. There are a lot of people who have questioned the humanrights record of the Chinese.”
BR在受采访时说：“我们应该调查所有跟我们做生意的公司的所在国的人权状况，况且这个公司是中国的，那就更应该不能放过，毕竟世界上有很多人都在质疑中国的人权记录”。
Rushing said there is precedent for the state to refuse to dobusiness with countries that have troubling records on human rights, includingSouth Africa in the apartheid era and, more recently, Myanmar.
BR还说，不和篡改人权记录的国家做生意在本州是有先例的，比如实行种族隔离政策的南非地区，还有最近的缅甸。
But Patrick, in remarks to reporters outside an event in Roxbury Monday, insisted that the bidders onthe Red and Orange line contract have been “thoroughly vetted,” and that theprocess had been “transparent and rigorous and competitive.”
但是正在外面和记者谈论星期一大事件的主管P（ps：上边主管说星期一没时间，这里故意写星期一的）却坚持说红色和橘色线路的招标是经过严格审查的，而且招标过程透明且严谨，并最具竞争力。
Patrick said he had met with representatives of thecontractor in Hong Kong. Patrick noted that, under the terms of any contract,the new coaches would not be assembled in China.
主管P说他已经和合约方在香港见过面了，并且P还强调说，基于这个条约，新机车将不会在中国组装。（ps：美国人组装质量就好是吧！！）
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“A condition of the deal is that the coaches be assembledright here in Massachusetts,” Patrick said.
“这个交易的条件就是这些车在马赛州组装”P说。
Charlie Baker, the Republican gubernatorial nominee, said hewas glad the contract for the new subway cars would require assembly to takeplace in Massachusetts.
叫CB的共和党州长候选人，说他很乐意看到新地铁在马赛州组装。
If elected, Baker said he would make sure Massachusettsbusinesses that seek state contracts for such work get credit for employingpeople in the Commonwealth.
如果CB当选，他说他将确保马赛州的企业获得这样的工作合同，并且得到被雇佣团体的信任。
The Democratic candidate, Attorney General Martha Coakley,could not be reached for comment Monday night.
皿煮党民意代表人MC，在周一的时候没有到。
At Wednesday’s MDOT board meeting, the seven-member panel isscheduled to discuss and either approve or deny the contract with CNR,according to the publicly available agenda posted on the agency’s website.
根据代理网站上公布的议事日程，在周二的马赛地铁方案会议上，陪审团将决定是否同意和CNR的协议。
MBTA and Department of Transportation officials would notcomment Monday night on the contract or the process.
马赛州和政府运输部门将不会对星期一的合约和审核过程置予评论。
Patrick first pledged to replace many of the aging cars inthe Red and Orange line fleets a year ago, after the Legislature passed a lawthat raised taxes to provide $800 million annually to the state’stransportation systems.
一年前，主管P开始保证要更换老旧的红色和橘色线路的地铁，然后立法通过了要每年通过税收筹集8亿美金用在公共交通上。
Last year, the MBTA issued requests for proposals to replacethe Red Line’s 45-year-old cars and the Orange Line’s 33-year-oldcars, aging equipment that has caused delays and required constant upkeepfor years.
去年，马赛州运输局发出投标要更换已经用了45年的红色线路机车和33年的橘色线路机车，过时的机车已经造成了运输的延迟，并且还有持续不断的维修费。
In its request, the agency asked for at least 226 cars,including 152 to replace the entire Orange Line fleet. The request alsoincluded 74 Red Line cars, which is about one-third of the fleet.
基于这个需求，代理人说需要最少226量机车，包含152机车用于替换整条橘色线路，和74量机车用于取代红色线路三分之一的机车。
MBTA officials did not release the names of the otherbidders, citing the confidentiality of the bidding process.
马赛运输局基于投标保密协议，没有公布其他的竞标者的名称。
But earlier this spring, CNR Changchun Railway announced itsintentions to assemble the cars in Springfield if awarded the deal, accordingto local media reports.
但是今年春天早些时候，根据当地的报道，CNR长春机车宣布其有意将机车在马赛州生产如果协议达成的话。
Hyundai Rotem, the South Korean company that in 2008 won a$190 million contract to supply the T with 75 new commuter rail cars, alsoidentified itself as a bidder on the Red and Orange line contract, byannouncing its own proposal to build a plant in Springfield, which was alsoreported by the local media.
现代重工，韩国公司，在2008年的时候赢得了一个1.9亿美金的合同为T提供了75量新的静音地铁机车，也参加了这次的竞标，其也宣布将会在马赛州设立工厂，这也是由当地媒体报道的。
Hyundai Rotem has been criticized for delivering the commuterrail cars behind schedule and later, for claims that the delivered trains werefaulty and required fixes.
现代重工评估了交车的速度能否赶上计划，然后声明马赛州政府的交车的计划是有问题的，需要修改。
Harry King, a spokesman for Hyundai Rotem, said in astatement the company was unaware the T had selected a winning bidder for theRed and Orange line trains.
金，一个现代重工的发言人说，“在公司还没有意识的情况下，马赛州政府已经选好了中标者”。
“This is the first we have heard that a decision would beannounced so soon,” King said in the statement.
“这是头一次我们听说竞标可以这么快宣布结果”
Michael Felton, the Springfield City Council president whosponsored a resolution to support CNR’s proposed facility in Springfield, saidthe granting of the accord would be welcome news for the region because of thejobs it would create.
MF，春田郡委员会主席，表达了自己支持CNR在春田建场的决心，说，给于支持将会是好消息，因为这将的给当地人带来工作。
He said he had not been told about the impending vote. “It’sa tremendous economic development opportunity and one of the greatest ones thatour region has seen in recent memory,” he said.
他说他还没有被告知最终的投票结果，“这将是一个巨大的经济发展机遇，而且是近些年来我们这个地区最好的项目”他补充道。
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If the coaches will be assembled here, we do not have anAmerican company that can pick up this contract? Just wondering!
如果这个机车要在美国组装，那为什么没有美国的公司来承接这个项目了?
好奇！！
For these sorts of trainsets it’s difficult to find anAmerican manufacturer (not to mention, many US manufacturers contractfabrication/assembly to Chinese companies anyways). The US has a vigorousfreight rail industry – which includes rail car manufacturing (tank cars,hoppers, etc…), but much less so on the passenger front.
（回上）对于这些地铁机车，很难找到一个美国制造商（即使找到了，也是外包给中国子公司），美国的货运列车较发达，但是做人的就不怎么行了。。。。
Let’s just hope we get a quality product. Saving money on abid is good in the short-term, but if the T gets stiffed with substandardproduct, we’re going to be paying far more in the long-run.
让我们一起期望能有个好质量的产品吧。在竞标里省钱是个好主意。（这家伙估计没看懂文章）
We live in a world economy now, and we have to recognize that. Buying Americanis an unrealistic goal and possibly destructive goal. If we expect people inother countries to buy American goods and services, we have to buy theirs.
我们现在是世界经济一体化，而我们还没认识到这情况。买别人东西是一个有害的方式，但是如果想让别人买我们的东西，我们也必须买他们的。
Yes, good point on the assembly plants, I didn’t elucidatethat. I would point out though, that these assembly plants are just that; thereis minimal manufacturing of the parts in the US – it’s mostly just putting thepieces together.
是的，组装工厂就是这样，我不在解释了。但是组装只是生产的很小的一部分，美国人仅仅是把零件组装起来而已。
As with the production of automobiles by Toyota, Honda,Mercedes and others, the parts will be a mixture of imported and domesticproducts. Even Ford and General Motors use foreign parts in American cars.
这没什么，就像丰田，本田，奔驰和其他的汽车一样会用美国产的零件，而美国的福特和通用也会用外国的零件。
we do business with Israel. so whats thedifference they both have human rights issues
我们也和以色列做生意啊，中国和以色列都有人权问题，所以又怎样？
i am sure there are american companies but it goes to the lowest qualifiedbidder.
我确定有美国公司造地铁，但是他们绝对去竞标低端产品去了。
Why are you fixated on Israel? You seemto inject Israel into every one of your posts. I hope you are not one of those.
你为什么跟以色列过不去？感觉你想向每个人灌输你的思想，希望你不是犹太人。
With any luck you will emigrate to a country that hatesIsrael as much as you do. I’m sure you’ll find the living just super!
你有没有碰巧遇到移居到国外而痛恨以色列的人呢？我相信你绝对会在身边找到活的例子的。。。。
No only human rights, but what about the environment andendangered species? It’s a free for all in China with complete disregard forwhat I mention. Its about *** money at any cost. Keep it at home and providejobs to americans.
不仅仅是人权，环境和生物所遭受的损害呢？在中国，我所说的完全没人关心，所有人都只在乎钱，而不管造成了什么代价。污染留在中国，并且给美国人创造工作.
The bidding entity from China is the Peoples Liberation Army.Yes folks the profits from this venture will fund more hacking research tosteal our military and business secrets.
这个中标人其实是中国人民解放军，你们这些愚蠢的地球人啊，这次的项目将会资助更多的黑客行为来偷取我们的军事和商业机密。
I am a little surprised not to see Bombardier listed as abidder – I believe they built the new blue line trainsets. Anyone know if theybid? They do some assembly in the US already…
我有一点惊讶竟然没有看到美国海军陆战队中标，我相信他们已经准备好了蓝色生产线（ps：美国海陆空三军穿蓝色），他们到底有没有中标？他们已经准备好了组装车间（PS：组装车间和集结号是一个词，所以这句话也是 他们已经集结完毕的意思）。。。。
WOW ! BULLETPROOF trains
（回上）叼炸天！蓝色的火车。。。
If you have 800 million annually why don’t you build your ownplant train and put America to work you could be fixing your whole fleet foryears to come
如果马赛州你们有8亿美金，为什么你们不自己做一个生产线，雇佣美国人工作，这样你在接下来的几年里就可也把所有的机车都换掉。。。。（PS：单纯的孩子）
When even our government entities are buying from China, how are we ever goingto resurrect manufacturing in the US! Buying the cheapest is not good policywhen most of the money is going overseas.
什么时候我们可以从中国买个政府过来？难道我们就不准备复兴美国的制造业了嘛？当我们的钱流向海外时，买最便宜的往往不是最好的选择。
The Chinese make a substandard product, in every class ofmerchandise they produce. I can’t believe it’s come to this, that the T is evenconsidering buying from a world class human rights violator, never mind howthey treat their labor… and, they are communists to boot. I thought we wereopposed to communism.
中国所生产的所有种类的产品全部不合格，我没想到如今他们已经开始做地铁了，而马赛州甚至考虑从一个人权破坏者那里购买产品，而不考虑他们如何对待自己的劳工，而且他们走的还是共产主义的道路，我们难道不是反对共产主义嘛？
Yeah, we’re opposed to communism unless it’s profitable thenslave labor is AOK! I’m so glad the wealthy political parties are tackling thisproblem.
呵呵，我们是反对共产主义，但是如果我们有利可图的话，别说是共产，奴役劳工也行啊！我真高兴看到有正直的政客在追查这个问题。。。。。
@jamup33…areyou referring to iphones?
（回复上）你的iphone？
Top Bid ? Dear Headline writers- It is called the ‘LowBid”
中标？亲爱的题目作者，那叫 最便宜的标；
Just build them in Germany and get a quality product.
行行好在德国造吧，给我们一个有质量保证产品；
It would be great to see a german product, or really anycompetition from other nations. The fact of the matter is that the contractalways goes to the low bidder, because it’s easy for those *** the decisionsto justify. “See, look how much money we’re saving?” Chinesecompanies will always low-ball and then we wind up paying for it in the backend in delayed deliveries, warranty issues, etc. The contract award should bemade to the lowest QUALIFIED bidder, and we as the public need to be acceptingof the fact that in order to get a qaulity product, it may cost and extra 5% orso up front, but we’ll be better off in the long run.
（回楼上）如果德国造是在好不过的了，或者其他国家都行。事实就是合约总是倾向于出价低的一方，因为这样那些州管理者就可以说“看我们省了多少钱”，中国公司总是低价竞标，然后拖延时间交货，这样就不得不加钱。竞标总是竞价最低的赢，而我们公众总是想要质量好的产品，而这可能会多花5%或者更多的钱，但长远来看是划算的。
Just how would you determine whether one bidder or the otherwill provide the best quality product. Do you base that who which one chargesthe highest price? Or maybe the country where they’re based. We get the bestquality cars, according to Consumer Reports, from Japan and Korea, not Germany.
你怎么判断哪个竞标人会给你最好质量的产品？难道你是依据谁出价最高？或者是他们来自哪个国家？根据我们的汽车企业调查，日本和韩国的车质量是最好的，而不是德国。
China should not be building our trains.
不能让中国人造我们的火车。
Its human rights abuses, environmental destruction, its actions in Tibet andelsewhere and political *** should bar it outright from even bidding onthis contract.
因为中国的人权纪录，环境破坏，在XZ和别的地方的行为，政党压制等就应该不让中国来竞标！
Have we lost all sense of moral integrity? Money money money money!
我们难道已经丢失了精神和品德了吗？只有，钱，钱，钱！！！！！！！
A US company should design and build them. Here. For all the obvious reasons.
美国的公司应该设计并修建它们，原因在明显不过了。。。。
On the other hand, it would truly be the “Red (Star) Line.
某种意义上真的是 红的线路额（PS:共产主义红色，修的路也叫红色线路）。。。。。。。。。。
I believe the Chinese flag includes a yellow star. But yeahto hell with them and stuff.
（回复楼上）我相信中国的国旗上有黄色的星星，但是见鬼去吧，哈哈。。。。。。。。。。。
I would suggest that you complain to your heroes DevalPatrick and Barack Obama about this.
（回复楼上）我建议你去跟马塞州州长DP和奥观海去说去。。。。。
They have a rather consistent habit of helping out America’s enemies whilehurting America’s friends.
他们有一个始终如一的行为，帮助美国的敌人，伤害美国的盟友。。。。
It IS hard to believe after all this time that there doesn’tseem to be a US manufacturer that can compete on large contracts for trains andtrain repair. Why not? Demand is steady, the government pays, we need themanufacturing jobs. Couldn’t GM or Ford go after business like this? Assemblyin Springfield is a nice touch, but of course it means the profits are headingto China. What a wasted opportunity!
很心酸的看到美国机车制造商没有能力在这种大型项目上竞争。为什么？需求是固定的，政府出钱，而我们需要制造业的工作。这件事以后，难道通用和福特不会这么做吗？在春田组装是件好事，但是主要盈利却去了中国。真是浪费机会啊！
Luckily, it’s just the orange and red lines, so no valuabletechnology is involved.
真幸运，幸好只是橘色和红色线路，没有机密的技术没卷入进去。。。（Ps：我们就天天偷你们技术？）
If a country’s human rights record disqualifies them from therail contract, then perhaps U.S. firms need not apply: 175K innocents killed inthe Iraq war; 30K handgun deaths/year; 2nd highest incarceration rate in world;47m living below the poverty line; etc.
如果人权问题妨碍了他们参加这次竞标，那美国的公司应该不会承认17.5万人在伊拉克战争中丧生，每年3万人死于手枪，世界第二高的比例，4700万人生活在政府贫困线以下。。。。。等
The clueless people that voted for Deval have a lot to answerfor.
这篇文章并没有为投票给Deval给出明确答案。。。（PS：这家伙是个明白人，这片文章明显黑共和党）
Made in China
Profits go to communism
Cambridge and Brookline are cheering on that one!
中国制造
利益流向中国，
而马塞州还为此事庆祝！！
The human rights issues are certainly concerning. But howabout also not transferring even more of our wealth and profit to China? Wheredid the next highest bid originate from? The public could well be willing topay slightly more if it means supporting an American company.
人权问题固然需要关注，但是重点是能不能不要转移我们的财富去中国？下一个高价竞标会发生在哪？政府应该多出点钱如果竞标的是美国的企业的话。
Sometimes I wonder if Marx was right. The Capitalists areweaving the rope that will be sued to hang themselves! China steals everytechnology it can lay its hands on and we assist them by sending dollars tocompanies that will never allow a level playing field. What an idioticapproach!
有时我真怀疑马克思是不是对的。资本家们自己做了个绳子然后把自己吊死了。中国偷走了所有他能触及到的科技，而且我们给他们美元帮助他们，我们永远都没有一个公平的竞争环境。真是一个愚蠢的方法！！
No…this is just a horrible decision.
不，这仅仅是一个可怕的决定。
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