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【韩国网友】体育：海外韩国人对华侨为他们赢得金牌的反应
由 Admin 周一 二月 24, 2014 11:22 am
Ethnic Chinese who turned Korean wins 3000m relay Gold
华裔韩国人赢得3000M接力金牌龙腾网 http://www.ltaaa.com
by Consoleman » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:34 am
Apparently this is *** sensation in Korea as she is first ever Hwagyo background (공상정) to win Gold medal for Korea, despite this was team effort since it was 3,000m short-track speed staking relay event, she was 3rd skater at the race. She is 3rd generation Hwagyo in Korea with Chinese father, who is also born and living in Korea.
http://news.chosun.com/site/data/html_d ... 00331.html
3rd generation with Korean mother ?, c'mon that's not even Chinese.
很显然，尽管这是个3000米的短距离接力赛，就因为她的华裔身份，国家开始亢奋了，她是赛事中的第三个队员。她已经是第三代，他爸是出生在韩国的中国人。 第三代了，她妈还是韩国人，算毛的华裔？
by chucky3176 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:42 am
It says she swapped her citizenship from being Taiwanese, since her father is a Korean born Chinese, with her grandfather being the immigrant. Culturally she's a Korean, only on paper was she Taiwanese. It also says she didn't compete for the gold medal final, she participated in the qualifying race.
And I guess taiwanese will go crazy at her and call her a gaoli bangzi traitor?!
Let them. They can't stand up to china.
都说她是放弃了台湾国籍了然后加入韩国国籍的，他爸是出生在韩国的中国人，她爷是个移民。 文化上她就是个韩国人，文件上她曾是台湾人，就介样的。她没参加金牌决赛，只是半决赛。台湾可能会暴走然后叫她高丽棒奸 哈哈
Even the US regards them as a part of China.
得了吧，连美国都说台湾是中国的
Postby xcreaturex100 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:32 am
^
She isn't even Hwagyo, she's half Korean-Chinese.
她根本不是华侨，她是韩中混的
Postby chucky3176 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:59 pm
It is found out that Taiwan, twice approached this kid, trying to convince her to join the Taiwan national team. But she not only rejected them, she got the Korean citizenship. Her father is a third generation Chinese with Taiwan nationality, who is a doctor in Chuncheon city. Her mother is also a Taiwanese Chinese, so the reports that her mother is a Korean is false. Her entire family including her sister and brother are all Taiwanese, she's the only person in her family who got Korean citizenship. She said she thinks like Korean, eats Korean food only, and she never once considered herself anything but other than Korean, despite what was said on her passport.
http://article.joins.com/news/article/a ... le|default
Just as a side note, there has been a lot of ethnic Chinese with Taiwan citizenship who took up Korean citizenship lately, but most of them have been women. Why not men? Because they can avoid the military draft if they keep their Taiwan passports.
台湾两次跟她联系想说服她去台湾国家队，但她不愿意，她国籍是韩国的。她爹是台湾身份的华裔，在CHUNCHEON当医生。她妈是个台湾华人，所以媒体说什么她妈是韩国人是瞎JB扯。她整个家她姐她哥全台湾人，她全家就她拿了韩国国籍。她说她思想上是韩国人，吃的韩国饭，从来不觉得她不是韩国人过，除了曾经有过台湾护照。
顺带说下，最近很多台湾华裔跑来拿韩国护照，基本是女人，为啥不是男人？因为这样他们能逃避服兵役
by Gaemamusa » Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:07 am
^ But she still "sees herself as a Korean and thinks like a Korean". If she ends up marrying ethnic Koreans her descendants will become assimilated i guess.
但她认为她是个韩国人，如果她嫁给韩国人，慢慢会被融入吧
by Kobukson » Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:29 am
^ Is that a fact? So the Uyghurs who married Chinese and once thought to be Chinese is still assimilated today? How about the Yugoslavic peoples who once carried that nationality associated with themselves being an ethnic group called Yugoslavs? How did their thought of assimilation turn out? What about the once hyped, Austro-Hungarians about to become a nation that had also failed to carry on its dream to become a society. What about the Hazara peoples that were once thought to be assimilated into the middle-east Asia? We actually see the rising tears and the genocide amongst those peoples. What about the Mongol empire? Everyone residing in that empire was definitely Mongolian by nationality now weren't they?
I actually still see the groups right in the Korean peninsula claiming to be Koreans but are not. I wanted to start a topic on about them but didn't think it would be a good discussion. These groups I speak of are the descendants of the Hmong peoples brought in as rice agriculturists from hundreds of years ago currently residing in South Korea today. They infect have Korean names with the exception of the fact that they are not along the same lines of the Mongol/Tungus peoples politically and culturally. My point here is, they are still there. Even after hundreds of years. And that as long as those peoples are there, no permanent changes can be done. On the other hand, Koreans still exist right in Manchuria even to this day since thousands of years ago. Whether the Chinese peoples dominate that area or not will not affect these peoples.
你觉得是？那维吾尔嫁了中国人而且曾经也觉得她是中国人今天还会融入（这棒子不知道在说啥，我擦），那曾被认为是YUGOSL***S的YUGOLS***IC 人呢？他们最后融入了？那那些曾经牛掰过的匈牙利人（这丫不懂把匈奴和匈牙利搞混了）最后却2了呢？那HAZARA人最后融入到了中东里了？实际上我们看到的是对这些人的种族屠杀。蒙古帝国呢，在那个帝国存在过的人都肯定是蒙古人是吧？（讽刺）
我实际上看到很多不是韩国人的人号称自己是韩国人的，我想说下去但不会有好对话。我说的是几百年前作为稻米种植人来韩国的苗人。他们传染（这丫不知道说INFECT是啥意思）韩国名字但却不是既不在文化上也不在政治上是蒙古或通古斯种。我的意思是，他们还在。几百年过去了，只要他们还在，就不可能有永恒的改变。另一方面从几千年起大棒民族都还在中国东北存在，中国人的统治会不会影响这些人（这丫逻辑混乱，语句不通，都不知道在说啥）
Re: Ethnic Chinese who turned Korean wins 3000m relay Gold
batman07 wrote:
Ultimately people who stay in Korea will get assimilated.
最终这些中国人会被融入的
Postby JetBlue » Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:58 pm
chinese are well known for not assimilating though....why do you think there are so many chinatowns around
can a parasite assimilate into what it feeds on??
但是中国人可出了名的不好被融入，要不然怎么那么多中国城
寄生虫会被融入到主体里？（这人是菲律宾人）
Kobukson » Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:04 pm
^ Northern Chinese isn't exactly Turko-Mongol. They are essentially Chinese with minor influence from the last Qing's conquest. However, the skater Kexin Fan is more along the lines of the Mongol/Manchu influence. More so than this Taiwanese skater Gong sang-cheung.
So yes these northern chinese have mongol manchu blood in them?!
中国北方人不是突厥蒙古族（废话）他们只在后清受到很小的影响。但是这个范可新可能更是像受到蒙古满族影响，相比台湾的GONG SANG CHEUNG
So yes these northern chinese have mongol manchu blood in them?!
所以中国北方人有蒙古满族血统（废话，尼玛真心2）
by Kobukson » Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:40 pm
^ No. Only a few do. That's why they cannot claim the cultures of the invaders. Mongol/Manchu intrusion to China won't change their DNA data permanently. Northern Chinese don't share same blood with the Buryat, Korea and mainland Japan. It's a small minority of the Northern China that does. Out of 500 million Northern Chinese, I would say about 10 to 20 million will have this influence.
Look at it this way, France was once conquered by the Norsemen (Germanic) peoples and only region in France that has this slight influence is in Normandy but not the whole of France.
Nothing in the world is permanent. It is temporary. If this was not the case, we would have made a single nation with single ethnic group, single culture, single religion by now.
不，只有一些有（服了。。。讲半天尽说废话），所以他们不能霸占满族蒙古族的文化（哥快哭了）蒙古和满族的影响不会永远改变他们的DNA。中国北方人没有BURYAT韩国日本血统。 只有少部分，5亿里有一两千万吧。
打比方，法国被（德国种)维京人占领，而他么却只对罗曼迪有小小影响而不是整个法国。
世界不是永恒的，是暂时的，要不然现在我们就是一个国家一个民族一个文化了（韩国人我真心服了你们了，快哭了）
华裔韩国人赢得3000M接力金牌龙腾网 http://www.ltaaa.com
by Consoleman » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:34 am
Apparently this is *** sensation in Korea as she is first ever Hwagyo background (공상정) to win Gold medal for Korea, despite this was team effort since it was 3,000m short-track speed staking relay event, she was 3rd skater at the race. She is 3rd generation Hwagyo in Korea with Chinese father, who is also born and living in Korea.
http://news.chosun.com/site/data/html_d ... 00331.html
3rd generation with Korean mother ?, c'mon that's not even Chinese.
很显然，尽管这是个3000米的短距离接力赛，就因为她的华裔身份，国家开始亢奋了，她是赛事中的第三个队员。她已经是第三代，他爸是出生在韩国的中国人。 第三代了，她妈还是韩国人，算毛的华裔？
by chucky3176 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:42 am
It says she swapped her citizenship from being Taiwanese, since her father is a Korean born Chinese, with her grandfather being the immigrant. Culturally she's a Korean, only on paper was she Taiwanese. It also says she didn't compete for the gold medal final, she participated in the qualifying race.
And I guess taiwanese will go crazy at her and call her a gaoli bangzi traitor?!
Let them. They can't stand up to china.
都说她是放弃了台湾国籍了然后加入韩国国籍的，他爸是出生在韩国的中国人，她爷是个移民。 文化上她就是个韩国人，文件上她曾是台湾人，就介样的。她没参加金牌决赛，只是半决赛。台湾可能会暴走然后叫她高丽棒奸 哈哈
Even the US regards them as a part of China.得了吧，连美国都说台湾是中国的
Postby xcreaturex100 » Wed Feb 19, 2014 5:32 am
^
She isn't even Hwagyo, she's half Korean-Chinese.
她根本不是华侨，她是韩中混的
Postby chucky3176 » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:59 pm
It is found out that Taiwan, twice approached this kid, trying to convince her to join the Taiwan national team. But she not only rejected them, she got the Korean citizenship. Her father is a third generation Chinese with Taiwan nationality, who is a doctor in Chuncheon city. Her mother is also a Taiwanese Chinese, so the reports that her mother is a Korean is false. Her entire family including her sister and brother are all Taiwanese, she's the only person in her family who got Korean citizenship. She said she thinks like Korean, eats Korean food only, and she never once considered herself anything but other than Korean, despite what was said on her passport.
http://article.joins.com/news/article/a ... le|default
Just as a side note, there has been a lot of ethnic Chinese with Taiwan citizenship who took up Korean citizenship lately, but most of them have been women. Why not men? Because they can avoid the military draft if they keep their Taiwan passports.
台湾两次跟她联系想说服她去台湾国家队，但她不愿意，她国籍是韩国的。她爹是台湾身份的华裔，在CHUNCHEON当医生。她妈是个台湾华人，所以媒体说什么她妈是韩国人是瞎JB扯。她整个家她姐她哥全台湾人，她全家就她拿了韩国国籍。她说她思想上是韩国人，吃的韩国饭，从来不觉得她不是韩国人过，除了曾经有过台湾护照。
顺带说下，最近很多台湾华裔跑来拿韩国护照，基本是女人，为啥不是男人？因为这样他们能逃避服兵役
by Gaemamusa » Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:07 am
^ But she still "sees herself as a Korean and thinks like a Korean". If she ends up marrying ethnic Koreans her descendants will become assimilated i guess.
但她认为她是个韩国人，如果她嫁给韩国人，慢慢会被融入吧
by Kobukson » Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:29 am
^ Is that a fact? So the Uyghurs who married Chinese and once thought to be Chinese is still assimilated today? How about the Yugoslavic peoples who once carried that nationality associated with themselves being an ethnic group called Yugoslavs? How did their thought of assimilation turn out? What about the once hyped, Austro-Hungarians about to become a nation that had also failed to carry on its dream to become a society. What about the Hazara peoples that were once thought to be assimilated into the middle-east Asia? We actually see the rising tears and the genocide amongst those peoples. What about the Mongol empire? Everyone residing in that empire was definitely Mongolian by nationality now weren't they?
I actually still see the groups right in the Korean peninsula claiming to be Koreans but are not. I wanted to start a topic on about them but didn't think it would be a good discussion. These groups I speak of are the descendants of the Hmong peoples brought in as rice agriculturists from hundreds of years ago currently residing in South Korea today. They infect have Korean names with the exception of the fact that they are not along the same lines of the Mongol/Tungus peoples politically and culturally. My point here is, they are still there. Even after hundreds of years. And that as long as those peoples are there, no permanent changes can be done. On the other hand, Koreans still exist right in Manchuria even to this day since thousands of years ago. Whether the Chinese peoples dominate that area or not will not affect these peoples.
你觉得是？那维吾尔嫁了中国人而且曾经也觉得她是中国人今天还会融入（这棒子不知道在说啥，我擦），那曾被认为是YUGOSL***S的YUGOLS***IC 人呢？他们最后融入了？那那些曾经牛掰过的匈牙利人（这丫不懂把匈奴和匈牙利搞混了）最后却2了呢？那HAZARA人最后融入到了中东里了？实际上我们看到的是对这些人的种族屠杀。蒙古帝国呢，在那个帝国存在过的人都肯定是蒙古人是吧？（讽刺）
我实际上看到很多不是韩国人的人号称自己是韩国人的，我想说下去但不会有好对话。我说的是几百年前作为稻米种植人来韩国的苗人。他们传染（这丫不知道说INFECT是啥意思）韩国名字但却不是既不在文化上也不在政治上是蒙古或通古斯种。我的意思是，他们还在。几百年过去了，只要他们还在，就不可能有永恒的改变。另一方面从几千年起大棒民族都还在中国东北存在，中国人的统治会不会影响这些人（这丫逻辑混乱，语句不通，都不知道在说啥）
Re: Ethnic Chinese who turned Korean wins 3000m relay Gold
batman07 wrote:
Ultimately people who stay in Korea will get assimilated.
最终这些中国人会被融入的
Postby JetBlue » Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:58 pm
chinese are well known for not assimilating though....why do you think there are so many chinatowns around
can a parasite assimilate into what it feeds on??
但是中国人可出了名的不好被融入，要不然怎么那么多中国城
寄生虫会被融入到主体里？（这人是菲律宾人）
Kobukson » Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:04 pm
^ Northern Chinese isn't exactly Turko-Mongol. They are essentially Chinese with minor influence from the last Qing's conquest. However, the skater Kexin Fan is more along the lines of the Mongol/Manchu influence. More so than this Taiwanese skater Gong sang-cheung.
So yes these northern chinese have mongol manchu blood in them?!
中国北方人不是突厥蒙古族（废话）他们只在后清受到很小的影响。但是这个范可新可能更是像受到蒙古满族影响，相比台湾的GONG SANG CHEUNG
So yes these northern chinese have mongol manchu blood in them?!
所以中国北方人有蒙古满族血统（废话，尼玛真心2）
by Kobukson » Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:40 pm
^ No. Only a few do. That's why they cannot claim the cultures of the invaders. Mongol/Manchu intrusion to China won't change their DNA data permanently. Northern Chinese don't share same blood with the Buryat, Korea and mainland Japan. It's a small minority of the Northern China that does. Out of 500 million Northern Chinese, I would say about 10 to 20 million will have this influence.
Look at it this way, France was once conquered by the Norsemen (Germanic) peoples and only region in France that has this slight influence is in Normandy but not the whole of France.
Nothing in the world is permanent. It is temporary. If this was not the case, we would have made a single nation with single ethnic group, single culture, single religion by now.
不，只有一些有（服了。。。讲半天尽说废话），所以他们不能霸占满族蒙古族的文化（哥快哭了）蒙古和满族的影响不会永远改变他们的DNA。中国北方人没有BURYAT韩国日本血统。 只有少部分，5亿里有一两千万吧。
打比方，法国被（德国种)维京人占领，而他么却只对罗曼迪有小小影响而不是整个法国。
世界不是永恒的，是暂时的，要不然现在我们就是一个国家一个民族一个文化了（韩国人我真心服了你们了，快哭了）
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